2003 1Q February

Redpath/Ridpath/Reidpath Family Newsletter

1Q February 2003

Table of Contents:

Editor's Corner

Issue Notes

This issue of the

Redpath/Ridpath/Reidpath newsletter is a little late to press due to

technical difficulties, so thanks to everyone for their patience. 

I can guarantee it is worth the wait though, with great stories,

reunions coming up, and family history lessons continued in the series

by Robert U Redpath, III.

Web Site News

In between newsletter issues,

many family members are communicating, telling stories, asking for

connections, and just generally getting to know each other at the Forum

hosted at the Redpath/Ridpath/Reidpath website.  Go to redpath.org

, ridpath.org , or reidpath.org

and select Forum from the top menu. Check it out, you may be surprised

at who else is there and what they have to say.  You may even be

able to connect again with long lost relatives.  See you at the

Forum!

Meet the Family

Michael

Redpath - New York City, USA

Hello. My name is Michael Redpath and I was born in Brooklyn in 1963 to John

P. and Gladys Redpath. My grandparents were John and Ann Redpath. I have a

brother, John V. Redpath and a sister, Donna Redpath Smith. I married Jennifer

Sitler-Redpath in April, 2002 and we live in Breezy Point, New York. We are expecting twins in May, 2003. Quick work, huh? 

A little bit about myself: I am a New York City Firefighter presently working

in Manhattan's upper east side. During the World Trade Center attacks I arrived on the scene in the early afternoon of September 11th and over the

next 6 months I spent 50 days working there in the recovery effort. My neighborhood lost 70 people that day and my firehouse lost 9 good men. 

I grew up mostly on the beach in Breezy Point, NY fishing, surfing, and swimming. I also enjoy snowboarding, hockey, and playing the bass guitar. I

have a bachelor's degree in Graphic Design and in addition to my firefighter

duties, I also am involved in designing furniture. Those interested can take

a look at my website: www.nycFunkArt.com . 

I was happy to see how many Redpaths are around even though New York only

seems to have a few. I would love to find out how my branch of the family

arrived in New York City. If anyone has any information for me or to say

hello, please feel free to contact me at nycFunkArt@cs.com .

Charlotte

Redpath - Leeds, England

Charlotte Redpath (10) of Leeds is a T.V. star. She appears in the new BBC

Drama series "Down To Earth" Series 3. She plays 9 year old "Lucy Brewer"

daughter of Ian Kelsey (Emmerdale/Casualty) and Step daughter of Angela Griffin (Coronation St/Cutting It). The family appear from episode 4 (23rd

feb 2003)

This was Charlottes 1st ever audition and she has been on local Radio and TV

promoting the programme and being interviewed as she is so young.

Family

Reunion - Redpath - Collingwood, Ontario, Canada

Hello from Collingwood,

Ontario.

Here is an announcement for the Newsletter about the 50th annual Redpath reunion being held in Collingwood, Ontario.

DATE: Saturday, June 14th, 2003

PLACE: First Presbyterian Church, 200 Maple Street, Collingwood, Ontario

TIME: Anytime after 3:00 p.m. Dinner is approx. 4:30 p.m.

Pot Luck: Dishes, Cutlery and Beverages supplied.

If you have any questions you can call Betty Sharpe (Redpath) at 705-444-7348 or e-mail

whistler@sympatico.ca or even snail mail at 404-460 Ontario Street, Collingwood, Ontario, L9Y 4E5

We would be glad to have you in attendance and see if or where you fit in to our side of the family.

Betty Sharpe

Family

Reunion - Ridpath-Morton - Grand Junction, Colorado, USA

This is to announce the Ridpath-Morton Family Reunion. It will take place in Grand Junction, Colorado on or about August 2nd, 2003.

Wayne F. Ridpath 

Family History

Query

for Alice Redpath submitted by Joy Campbell, Queensland, Australia

Hi!

My name is Joy Campbell and I live in Burrum Heads, Queensland, Australia

My Interest in the Redpath is -

Alice Redpath married Nicholas Peterson in the 1790's in Northumberland and their daughter Isabella married my Joseph Campbell. I can not find

their marriage but their son Alexander born in 1839 and baptised in 1841 is my husband's great grandfather.

Alexander came to Australia and married here in 1866. Should you have

information regarding Alice it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Joy Campbell

'Redpath Roots': A Report

about Researches into the Scottish roots of the Redpaths - by Robert U

Redpath, III - Book 1, Pages 9-18

Related Redpaths in the USA

Recently a lovely lady, Elspeth

Ewan, who belongs to the Border Family History Society phoned to say that

some other Redpaths were asking about Robert Redpath in Maxton graveyard.

This led to a telephone introduction to Mary Jane Burdette from Michigan.

Mary Jane is related to one of Fafa's elder sisters, Mary Redpath Hogg.

Mary Jane Burdette is, by the way, married to a member of WMR's Yale class

and her sons have gone to Yale. She has provided a number of pictures of

the first Redpaths to come to America. Richland, Michigan and Kalamazoo

are Redpath epicentres and you can find most of them, including Fafa and

Sarah Redpath, buried in Richland cemetery.

Mary Jane Burdette is our 

(RUR3's/NMR's/WMR's/JRB's)  third cousin. She has provided me with

the complete family trees of her family and she has mounted these on a

computer programme.  We correspond and hope to continue completing

the entire family tree after emigration to the USA.

Emigration to the United

States

Finding out where the Redpaths

came from in Scotland, trying to understand why they left Scotland and

more recently what they did after they came to America links pretty well.

Our Redpath roots are rural; we come from a very feudal part of Scotland

with large landholdings where there essentially two classes of

people-those who owned the land ('lairds') and those who tilled it and

raised sheep ('tenants'). We come from the latter class; however, being a

farm steward meant not only knowing about farming and sheep raising but

also about bookkeeping and accounts. And the Scottish education was

democratic and rigorous: Fafa's Census entry was 'Scholar'. And there was

a strong religious orientation with our ancestor Robert acting as a lay

preacher in nearby St Boswells. No doubt Fafa was influenced by his

example.

Their roots and livelihood in

the land continued in Michigan as Fafa's brothers all became farmers in

Martin County. Fafa  himself  pursued  his  studies 

in  theology,  eventually obtaining his doctorate at Union

Theological Seminary.

Accounts vary as to exactly when

the Redpath's arrived but it's clear that didn't came all at once. One

version says that Christine Purvis Redpath and her two oldest sons came

first in 1851 or 1852 leaving her other children behind, including Fafa.

The family eventually saved enough money to bring him over to the US in

the steerage of a sailing ship, a 57 day trip. Fafa himself said he 1landed'

at Kalamazoo on the 29th of July 1858.

What is known by Mary Jane

Burdette, who is in contact with other members of the clan,is that John,

Robert's elder brother, came with his wife, Janet Purves (Christian's

elder sister) in 1834 to Canada, stayed for three years, then moved to

Caledonia New York and in 1848 came to Martin Michigan.  It is

possible that James, Robert's son, came to Canada first.

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We know that Ninian and his

family were in America at the time of the 1850 Census--whether this was

before or after his brother Robert's death in May is not known.

It is also known that James

Redpath, Robert's son, came back to bring his sister Mary Redpath Hogg and

her family over to Michigan after Henry Hogg her husband died in 1871.

The actual dates of entry into

the US can only be established by locating the citizenship petitions and

the Michigan records are held in the Chicago branch of the National

Archives. Otherwise it is extremely tedious to peruse the microfiche of

the passenger lists, which I have done in Boston and New York.

However, I recently discovered

that copies of all the censuses ever taken for all states in the Union are

held in the branch of the National Archives on 380 Trapelo Road in

Waltham, barely three miles from 123 Lincoln Road. Within a matter of

minutes I was able to locate a 'reunion' of Redpaths in Martin Michigan in

the 1850 Census. The entries in the 1850 Census (see Appendix A-

9)  were as

follows:

 Watson

in County of Allegan, Michigan, 5th day of September 1850

Ninian

D                       

Redpath                       

aged                       

44                       

born Scotand

Maria                       

"                       

aged                       

44                       

born England

Jane                       

"                       

aged                       

13                       

born Scotland

Mary                       

"                       

aged                       

10                       

born Scotland

Dorothy                       

"                       

aged                       

7                       

born Michigan

John                       

"                       

aged                       

3/12                       

of a year

John's birthdate indicates that,

at minimum,  the family had arrived by June but it is more likely

that Ninian came over earlier than May 1850 (Robert's death). James

Redpath was not present at the Census date and a letter from him explains

why:

"I tried farming for a

"spell'  as they say out there; but, after a month or

two of clearing, "concluded" that I was not born a little 

? to labor in the sun + struck for freedom and the nearest printing

office."

James Redpath's biography

indicates that he first went to Detroit after leaving the farm, but a

search through the Detroit 1850 Census is necessary to prove this.

The 1850 Census also showed that

Ninian's  elder brother, John, who had left Scotland in 1834 had

arrived in Michigan via Canada and New Caledonia NY. The Census records

show:

John Redpath aged 51 born in

Scotland Value of real estate $2000

Jennet          

"                   

aged                

51                   

"

James          

"                   

aged                

21                   

"

Mary           

"                   

aged                

19                   

"

George         

"                   

aged                

17                   

"

Margaret      

"                   

aged                

12 New York

Jane             

"                   

aged                

10 New York

James Redpath

     aged       57 Scotland Value of real estate

$500

Elizabeth Purves

    aged

        83 Scotland   Value of real estate $800 born in Scotland

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This shows that John brought

with him the mother of his wife Janet (spelled phonetically 'Jennet').

Also living with him in 1850 was his elder brother James, who may have

also left with John in 1834. So it appears that Robert Redpath's three

brothers all went to the United States and they were there some 17 years

or more before James, Robert's eldest son, brought Christine Purves

Redpath and her family to the United States.

Very unfortunately, the 1860

Census was destroyed in a fire. However, by the 1870 Census, our 'subclan'

appear in the Census and a copy of the form is appended. We can see that

John (Fafa) is a student and all the others are farmers. They live in

Richland in the county of Kalamazoo. Nearby lived Elizabeth Redpath 

Telfer,   the  eldest   daughter  of  

Robert   and Christine/Christian and I have appended a copy of

the 1870 Census form.

In sum, the only authoritative

way of finding the exact entry date into the United States is either by

perusing the shipping lists, which is incredibly tedious and unfruitful so

far or by finding the citizenship petition, presumably in the state of

Michigan--the records of these are held in the Chicago branch of the

National Archives.

Comments about first names

The following are some comments

about the naming of children, some of which are obvious and not terribly

interesting (except to a social anthropologist, which is what I am).

*         

A close look at the family tree shows a remarkable continuity of

first names for the men: every first born son is named James in the four

Scottish generations.

*         

As happens in most families, children are named after fathers,

mothers, aunts and uncles and this pattern obtains with our

Redpath ancestors. Taking the

women, Christian Tully Redpath names her first daughter, Christian. In the

next generation, Margaret Whitlaw names her daughter Jean, after her

mother Jean Gedgud.

*         

Robert and Christian name their first daughter Elizabeth after her

mother, Betty Spiers. James is named after Robert's father or else his

eldest brother. Alexander is named after Robert's next elder brother who

died early. Mary is named after Robert's mother; Janet after Christian's

elder sister who married John Redpath. And finally John is named after

Robert's nearest

brother.

*         

It is interesting that our matriarch was baptised 'Christian Purves,

was recorded as 'Christina' when her twins, John and William were born and

was recorded 'Christine' in the 1850

Census. *

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The numbers of Redpaths who

migrated to the United States

I thought it interesting to

count up the numbers of Redpaths who emigrated to the United States. These

were all children of James Redpath and Mary Lauder.

James Ridpath and Mary Lauder

had six children. Of those who got married:

1    

John Redpath and Janet Purves had six children Of those who

emigrated and were married:

-Elizabeth

had seven children

-Mary had

three children

-George had

three children

-Margaret

had two children

-Jane had

three children

-James

emigrated and stayed single, losing his arm in a threshing machine

-Janet's

mother emigrated with John and Janet Total emigrating= 27

 2       

Robert Redpath and Christian/Christina/Christine Purves had eight

children

Of those

who emigrated and were married:

-

Elizabeth had five children

-

George had four children

-

Mary had seven children

-

Janet had two children

-

John had four children

-

James emigrated and stayed single

-

Alexander emigrated and stayed single

-

William (Fafa's twin) emigrated and stayed single Total

emigrating=31

 3       

Ninian Redpath and Maria Main had seven children, all of whom

emigrated or were born in the United States. Of those that got married,

there is no evidence of any children in the next generation.

Therefore a total of 67 Redpaths

descended from James and Mary Ridpath either emigrated or were born in the

first wave of emigration. They all eventually settled in Michigan and many

are buried there in Richiand Cemetery. James Redpath is possibly buried in

Fresh Pond, Long Island, although as his biographer said:

"..pursuant to Redpath's

request, it (the casket) was conveyed to Fresh Pond, Long Island, where

the last remains were cremated. No concourse of carriages followed him to

his last resting place. He had asked that none follow his body as it left

its former home, excepting only his brother, John, and three very dear

friends."

*Chrissie Soleau was christened

'Christine Purvis Redpath'; this was another way of signalling Bud

Redpath's interest in family history, the first being his Princeton thesis

about the Upjohns.

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So we are essentially of farming

stock and mid-Westerners and Michiganers specifically but related to two

mavericks who had their noses in their books and came East. Based on this

almost wholesale migration of a Scottish family to America1 we

have an enormous number of cousins, probably fifth cousins, who are

related to the sons and daughters of James Redpath and Mary Lauder. Mary

Jane Burdette has provided me with her family's complete up-to-date family

tree and she is in touch with other relatives.

Our next step is to take John

Redpath's and Bill Redpath's advice and obtain a computer with enough

capacity to get on the internet and get in touch with other Redpaths. And

maybe some nice volunteer will spend a day in the National Archives in

Chicago looking for the citizenship petitions of the Michigan Redpaths.

Maybe we can have a clan

gathering; but I'm sorry, there's no tartan we can wear, as Redpaths. 

But we can, or at some of the younger Redpaths, try tossing the caber.

I end with a quote from William

Redpath's Christmas letter to his grandchildren who quoted from Macaulay's

History of England

 "A

people which takes no pride in the noble achievements of remote ancestors

will never achieve anything worthy to be remembered with pride by remote

descendants."

 I would

add a practical point: each generation need at least one person to be the

custodian of family history documents. Volunteers to form a queue/line on

the left! Please, no shoving!

 Rob

 Jordans

7 June 2000

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Appendix A-1

 

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